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		<title>By: Bud</title>
		<link>http://www.winningtheweb.com/value-exact-match-domain.php/comment-page-1/#comment-26982</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

A very interesting subject for me. What google search volume for a particular keyword constitutes a category killer?  I have recently managed to get my hands on an exact match domain that yields 650000 searches globally on google and about 64000 local to the UK.  Is this deemed to be a good search volume for an exact match domain?</description>
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<p>A very interesting subject for me. What google search volume for a particular keyword constitutes a category killer?  I have recently managed to get my hands on an exact match domain that yields 650000 searches globally on google and about 64000 local to the UK.  Is this deemed to be a good search volume for an exact match domain?</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.winningtheweb.com/value-exact-match-domain.php/comment-page-1/#comment-26671</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the article is very much on target. The .com will be the gold standard of the Internet for now and in the future. With just basic optimization an exact match domain name should rank high in the search engines and will only grow in value over time. Much of our portfolio consists a exact match and near match domains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the article is very much on target. The .com will be the gold standard of the Internet for now and in the future. With just basic optimization an exact match domain name should rank high in the search engines and will only grow in value over time. Much of our portfolio consists a exact match and near match domains.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.winningtheweb.com/value-exact-match-domain.php/comment-page-1/#comment-26178</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I own a sign company.  I am working on a new website for the retail division of our corporation.  I want to use a bunch of exact-match domain names and link them to my primary new website.
I have used spacky.com to check out the monthly frequency of search words and phrases that are what I&#039;m looking to connect with.  Can you help me?  Let&#039;s say I want to try and come up on the Googol first page...if possible.....for a business man needing to buy a illuminated lightbox sign. Spacky.com shows monthly figures for &quot;illuminated signs&quot; @ 12,100; &quot;lightbox&quot;
@ 550,000; &quot;business signs&quot; @ 40,500.  So I&#039;m thinking..okay, one of my exact-match domain names will be &quot;illuminatedlightboxbusinesssigns.com&quot;.  Am I thinking right?
When we say exact-match, the name can&#039;t match my new website exactly, so I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;m doing this right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I own a sign company.  I am working on a new website for the retail division of our corporation.  I want to use a bunch of exact-match domain names and link them to my primary new website.<br />
I have used spacky.com to check out the monthly frequency of search words and phrases that are what I&#8217;m looking to connect with.  Can you help me?  Let&#8217;s say I want to try and come up on the Googol first page&#8230;if possible&#8230;..for a business man needing to buy a illuminated lightbox sign. Spacky.com shows monthly figures for &#8220;illuminated signs&#8221; @ 12,100; &#8220;lightbox&#8221;<br />
@ 550,000; &#8220;business signs&#8221; @ 40,500.  So I&#8217;m thinking..okay, one of my exact-match domain names will be &#8220;illuminatedlightboxbusinesssigns.com&#8221;.  Am I thinking right?<br />
When we say exact-match, the name can&#8217;t match my new website exactly, so I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m doing this right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyutae Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyutae Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Richard,
I can definitely see how that could be a catch 22.  Why ditch something that&#039;s working, right?

Honestly though, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if your strategy decreased in effectiveness over time.  And Google will easily be able to see that the domains are connected (whois data, analytics, links, etc).  If possible, the best idea may be to use the traffic you&#039;re getting to promote a branded site while still making money (and investing some of it into the branded site).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard,<br />
I can definitely see how that could be a catch 22.  Why ditch something that&#8217;s working, right?</p>
<p>Honestly though, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if your strategy decreased in effectiveness over time.  And Google will easily be able to see that the domains are connected (whois data, analytics, links, etc).  If possible, the best idea may be to use the traffic you&#8217;re getting to promote a branded site while still making money (and investing some of it into the branded site).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gyutae, and thanks for your reply.

I agree entirely with your comments, and this is something we&#039;re looking at building up to. We wanted to see the amount of traffic these domains would bring before deciding what to do with the traffic afterwards.

It&#039;s a bit of a catch 22, becasue the domains are generating substantial commisions on their own, but one flick of the algorithm switch and you&#039;re right, it could be bye-bye forever, and we wouldnt have a main site to fall back on.

The general consensus amongst my partners is that by treating all the domains as separate entities, we&#039;re less likely to &#039;enter google&#039;s radar&#039; and be penalised on a mass scale. Another opinion is that Google will never reduce the weight they give to exact match domains, as google wouldnt be doing it&#039;s job if it didnt return the big brands for searches such as nike, reebok etc. 

I have to say i&#039;m slightly more sceptical, as i belive that Google could potentially manually review the superbrands and ensure they are ranking for their terms, and let the other websites fight it out based on quality content, structure and links. 

It&#039;s already starting to happen. search for &#039;las vegas hotels&#039; and you will see the majority of the results are the big name hotels. Is Google doing their job? I&#039;d say yes. People want hotels in las vegas and google has provided.....

I agree with some of the previous posts against keyword match domains. I agree it&#039;s unfair that a site that is constantly updated and is content rich should be out-ranked by a site on the basis that the domain matches the search term.

For the sake of our business let&#039;s just hope this doesn&#039;t happen ;) but i&#039;m with you on the need to develop some sort of brand site of our own to at least fall back on.

Appreciate your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gyutae, and thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>I agree entirely with your comments, and this is something we&#8217;re looking at building up to. We wanted to see the amount of traffic these domains would bring before deciding what to do with the traffic afterwards.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of a catch 22, becasue the domains are generating substantial commisions on their own, but one flick of the algorithm switch and you&#8217;re right, it could be bye-bye forever, and we wouldnt have a main site to fall back on.</p>
<p>The general consensus amongst my partners is that by treating all the domains as separate entities, we&#8217;re less likely to &#8216;enter google&#8217;s radar&#8217; and be penalised on a mass scale. Another opinion is that Google will never reduce the weight they give to exact match domains, as google wouldnt be doing it&#8217;s job if it didnt return the big brands for searches such as nike, reebok etc. </p>
<p>I have to say i&#8217;m slightly more sceptical, as i belive that Google could potentially manually review the superbrands and ensure they are ranking for their terms, and let the other websites fight it out based on quality content, structure and links. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s already starting to happen. search for &#8216;las vegas hotels&#8217; and you will see the majority of the results are the big name hotels. Is Google doing their job? I&#8217;d say yes. People want hotels in las vegas and google has provided&#8230;..</p>
<p>I agree with some of the previous posts against keyword match domains. I agree it&#8217;s unfair that a site that is constantly updated and is content rich should be out-ranked by a site on the basis that the domain matches the search term.</p>
<p>For the sake of our business let&#8217;s just hope this doesn&#8217;t happen <img src='http://www.winningtheweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  but i&#8217;m with you on the need to develop some sort of brand site of our own to at least fall back on.</p>
<p>Appreciate your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyutae Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyutae Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rich,
Thanks for sharing your situation.  12,000 domains... holy cow!

My focus with Internet marketing and SEO always revolves around the end user.  In other words, if I&#039;m faced with the dilemma of employing a certain strategy, I ask myself &quot;would I do this for my visitors, even if Google didn&#039;t exist?&quot;  If the answer is no, I usually scrap it.

By providing value, rather than relying on tricks, you&#039;re essentially future proofing your SEO.

In your case, your business relies heavily on the exact match bonus from Google.  What happens if Google made a slight tweak to its algorithm to discount this?  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily spam, but I think the strategy is shaky - whether Google flags it or not.  Plus it&#039;s a $100,000+ yearly expense.

My suggestion to you would be to leverage those 12,000 domains to drive traffic to a branded site (i.e. something like hotels.com).  That way, you&#039;re reaping the benefits of your technical advantage to build a long term business and site.

Let me know what you think.  Would love to discuss further with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rich,<br />
Thanks for sharing your situation.  12,000 domains&#8230; holy cow!</p>
<p>My focus with Internet marketing and SEO always revolves around the end user.  In other words, if I&#8217;m faced with the dilemma of employing a certain strategy, I ask myself &#8220;would I do this for my visitors, even if Google didn&#8217;t exist?&#8221;  If the answer is no, I usually scrap it.</p>
<p>By providing value, rather than relying on tricks, you&#8217;re essentially future proofing your SEO.</p>
<p>In your case, your business relies heavily on the exact match bonus from Google.  What happens if Google made a slight tweak to its algorithm to discount this?  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily spam, but I think the strategy is shaky &#8211; whether Google flags it or not.  Plus it&#8217;s a $100,000+ yearly expense.</p>
<p>My suggestion to you would be to leverage those 12,000 domains to drive traffic to a branded site (i.e. something like hotels.com).  That way, you&#8217;re reaping the benefits of your technical advantage to build a long term business and site.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think.  Would love to discuss further with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyutae Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyutae Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Simon,
Just to clarify, Google only gives the exact match bonus to domains WITHOUT the dash, so in your case walkietalkies.com.

My recommendation to you would be to continue building links, preferably with &quot;walkie talkies&quot; as the link anchor text.  Google loves links and with enough you can take down bigger brands and the exact match domain.

If you can, it&#039;d be nice to buy up the walkietalkies.com domain too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Simon,<br />
Just to clarify, Google only gives the exact match bonus to domains WITHOUT the dash, so in your case walkietalkies.com.</p>
<p>My recommendation to you would be to continue building links, preferably with &#8220;walkie talkies&#8221; as the link anchor text.  Google loves links and with enough you can take down bigger brands and the exact match domain.</p>
<p>If you can, it&#8217;d be nice to buy up the walkietalkies.com domain too.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s becasue you don&#039;t have an exact match domain name - you&#039;re has a dash in it.

Gyutae, I totally agree with your post - we currently have around 12,000 live domains targetting the travel sector. All our domain names contain exact match, long-ish tail search terms, and although they don&#039;t bring in a huge amount of traffic in their own right, the critical mass of monthly unique visitors is in the millions.

I also agree that these sites do drop away after Google&#039;s initial push, and a certain amount of linkbuilding is required (although a lot less than a non-keyword domain) to keep it near the top of the tree.

I do have a slightly off-topic question here though, and this is something i&#039;ve been pondering for a while. Whilst we are offering users a service that is relevent to their search query (ie a certain star rated hotel in a certain city), i&#039;ve often wonderered whether the scale we&#039;re doing it on maybe considered spam. For example, any user could probably find what they&#039;re looking for, in any city, by just going on a site like hotels.com and searching from within.

I still don&#039;t see how Google can penalise smaller, 2 or 3 page sites with an exact match domain, if they are providing a service to the users of the web (and perhaps even more relevent results than a huge site like hotels.com that will require further navigation)

This is where it gets tricky. We&#039;d like to look at our stats in greater detail using some form of web analytics. I&#039;d like your advice as to whether you think creating a google account with 12,000 domains, each with the same tracking script (to monitor combind traffic), would be a red flag to google, and even if it was flagged, is there anything they could do about it anyway, given that we are giving the users exactly what they are searching for?

Thanks,

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s becasue you don&#8217;t have an exact match domain name &#8211; you&#8217;re has a dash in it.</p>
<p>Gyutae, I totally agree with your post &#8211; we currently have around 12,000 live domains targetting the travel sector. All our domain names contain exact match, long-ish tail search terms, and although they don&#8217;t bring in a huge amount of traffic in their own right, the critical mass of monthly unique visitors is in the millions.</p>
<p>I also agree that these sites do drop away after Google&#8217;s initial push, and a certain amount of linkbuilding is required (although a lot less than a non-keyword domain) to keep it near the top of the tree.</p>
<p>I do have a slightly off-topic question here though, and this is something i&#8217;ve been pondering for a while. Whilst we are offering users a service that is relevent to their search query (ie a certain star rated hotel in a certain city), i&#8217;ve often wonderered whether the scale we&#8217;re doing it on maybe considered spam. For example, any user could probably find what they&#8217;re looking for, in any city, by just going on a site like hotels.com and searching from within.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t see how Google can penalise smaller, 2 or 3 page sites with an exact match domain, if they are providing a service to the users of the web (and perhaps even more relevent results than a huge site like hotels.com that will require further navigation)</p>
<p>This is where it gets tricky. We&#8217;d like to look at our stats in greater detail using some form of web analytics. I&#8217;d like your advice as to whether you think creating a google account with 12,000 domains, each with the same tracking script (to monitor combind traffic), would be a red flag to google, and even if it was flagged, is there anything they could do about it anyway, given that we are giving the users exactly what they are searching for?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I believe that google does love exact match domain names.

We own a site &quot;walkie-talkies.com&quot; that ranks first on yahoo [sometimes the wikipedia article on walkie talkies might rank higher] and ranks highly on bing. But is buried somewhere in the bottom of googles&#039; Serps pages.
We sell walkie talkies, all content is walkie talkie related and frequently updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I believe that google does love exact match domain names.</p>
<p>We own a site &#8220;walkie-talkies.com&#8221; that ranks first on yahoo [sometimes the wikipedia article on walkie talkies might rank higher] and ranks highly on bing. But is buried somewhere in the bottom of googles&#8217; Serps pages.<br />
We sell walkie talkies, all content is walkie talkie related and frequently updated.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juegos - you certainly can!

Google et al place a lot of weight on the ccTLD as well for &#039;local&#039; searches.  In Australia 80% of the top ten searches are invariably .au domains.

So put that together with the exact match discussion above and you can do extremely well.

A good example is debitcard.com.au, a site we developed.  Good content but very light on IBLs and it still pops up No1 in G for the term &quot;debit card&quot; in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juegos &#8211; you certainly can!</p>
<p>Google et al place a lot of weight on the ccTLD as well for &#8216;local&#8217; searches.  In Australia 80% of the top ten searches are invariably .au domains.</p>
<p>So put that together with the exact match discussion above and you can do extremely well.</p>
<p>A good example is debitcard.com.au, a site we developed.  Good content but very light on IBLs and it still pops up No1 in G for the term &#8220;debit card&#8221; in Australia.</p>
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